Cruxifixion

 Jesus mati dikayu salib bagi menebus dosa manusia.

Hal ini diperkenankan Tuhan

Persoalannya, mengapa perlunya Tuhan mematikan anak tunggalnya hanya untuk memaafkan dosa-dosa manusia? Bukankah Tuhan Maha Pengasih Maha Penyayang sifatnya?

dan kepada siapa Jesus menebus dosanya?

Adakah kepada Tuhan Bapa? atau kepada kuasa yang berlawanan?

...padahal mereka tidak membunuhnya dan tidak pula menyalibnya, akan tetapi (yg mereka bunuh adalah) diserupakan.."

Surah An Nisa' : 157

Ban start using Allah instead of God

Tertarik sy utk berkongsi sebuah artikel yg dipetik dr penerbitan Katholik antarabangsa mengenai isu penggunaan Allah sebagai rujukan kpd God atau Tuhan.

Roman Catholic Bishop Tiny Muskens of the Netherlands has decided that the way to ease Muslim-Everybody Else tensions is to start using "Allah" instead of "God." Noting that God does not care what we call him, Muskens thought, why not yield a little to Muslim ways?

Or would that be submit, the literal meaning of "Islam"?

"Allah is a very beautiful word for God," Muskens said on Dutch television a few days ago. "Shouldn't we all say that from now on we will name God Allah?"

Muskens pointed out that in Indonesia, the world's most populous Muslim country where he spent eight years, priests use the word "Allah" in Catholic Mass.

For the sake of peace, prosperity and clarity in the shire, let the record reflect that Muslims did not ask for this, though some in the Netherlands embraced the idea as a conciliatory gesture and in the U.S., some Muslims greeted the suggestion with enthusiasm.

Ibrahim Hooper, spokesman for the Council on American-Islamic Relations, told FoxNews.com that calling God "Allah" wouldn't require a theological leap for Christians. "It reinforces the fact that Muslims, Christians and Jews all worship the same God," Hooper said. It's not hard to understand why Muskens would tilt toward compromise. The Netherlands, which is now home to 1 million Muslims, hasn't been quite the peace 'n' love axis of the multicultural world, despite clouds of Silver Blue cannabis wafting from the city's famously mellow coffee houses.

Between the 2004 murder of Theo van Gogh, guilty of making a documentary film critical of Islam, death threats against fellow documentarian Ayaan Hirsi Ali, and the recent Muslim attack of the head of a Dutch group for "ex-Muslims," one could begin to think of invoking Allah as a savvy survival technique.

Besides, as Muskens pointed out, Allah is a lovely sounding word. Thus, in the spirit of Christian charity and Western tolerance, I've been trying it out with mixed results.

The Doxology of my Protestant childhood is problematic with the two-syllable Allah instead of the monosyllabic God, but not impossible: Praise Allah, from whom all blessings flow. Praise him, all creatures here below. Not perfect, but workable.

Changing Western language, symbols and making other accommodations to ease relations between old Europe and new isn't only a conciliatory gesture or even mere appeasement. It is submission by any other name.

America 's familiar childhood blessing is downright euphonious: Allah is great, Allah is good, let us thank him for our food. But the Apostle's Creed is a mess: I believe in Allah the Father almighty, maker of heaven and earth, and in Jesus Christ his only son ... . Oops.

Contrary to Hooper's one-God claim, Christians and Muslims don't really worship the same God. Although both religions are monotheistic — and if there's just one God, there's just one God — Christians believe Jesus was the Son of God and Muslims think otherwise.

That's not a small doctrinal difference. In fact, at the risk of exhausting the obvious, Christianity doesn't exist without, um, Christ. Of course we could rewrite the Apostle's Creed to include Muhammad: "I believe in Allah the Father Almighty ... and in Muhammad, his favorite prophet ... "

The possibilities are infinite, really. Alternatively, we could pretend to be sane and suggest that everybody go to his or her own house of worship, pray to his or her own version of the Creator, and otherwise get a grip.

Changing Western language, symbols and making other accommodations to ease relations between old Europe and new isn't only a conciliatory gesture or even mere appeasement. It is submission by any other name.

Language may be a manmade limitation, as Janaan Hashim said, speaking for the Council of Islamic Organizations of Greater Chicago, which endorses Muskens' idea. But language is not meaningless. The words we use to define and express ourselves are the fundaments of cultural and social identity. John Stuart Mill put it this way: "Language is the light of the mind."

Muskens, who retires in a few weeks, conceded that his idea likely wouldn't catch on right away. We might need another 100 years or so, but he predicted that, eventually, Allah will be the word.

Given that European Muslims are procreating at three times the rate of non-Muslims — and given the "logarithmic rate" of growth of jihadist ideology in the U.S., according to a new report by the New York Police Department's Intelligence Division — it may be sooner than that.

Peace be upon us.

Sumber

Barat dan Kristian khususnya tahu bahawa Allah sememangnya Tuhan Sekalian Alam yg selayaknya disembah.

Mengiktiraf Allah sebagai Tuhan saja tidak mncukupi.

1. Mereka mengiktiraf Allah sebagai Tuhan namun enggan mengakui KeEsaanNya.
Mereka mengakui bahawa Tuhan itu ada 3 tetapi bukan 3 Tuhan sebaliknya 1 Tuhan.
Selagi mereka tidak menolak konsep Trinity dan Incarnation ini, selagi itulah nama Allah tidak layak digunakan krn merujuk Allah sebagai 3 dlm 1 adalah pencemaran yg tidak boleh diterima.

*Trinity merujuk kpd Tuhan ada 3 yakni Father, Jesus son of God dan Ruhul Kudus (holy Ghost) tetapi bukan pula dipanggil 3 Tuhan tetapi 1 Tuhan. Incarnation merupakan konsep bagaimana Tuhan berupa makhluk.

2. Mengakui Ketuhanan Nabi Isa
Nabi Isa atau Jesus hanyalah salah seorg dr pesuruh Allah.
tempat baginda tggi namun tidaklah pula layak seorg manusia diangkat menjadi lebih tggi dr apa yg layak utknya.
Nabi Isa dituduh anak Tuhan sedangkn baginda hanyalah salah satu dr kebesaran Allah. Allah mencipta Nabi Isa lahir menerusi ibunya Maryam tnpa bapa. Allah membuktikan bahawa Dia mampu utk melakukan apa saja termasuk mencipta manusia tnpa bapanya.

Kejadian yg berlaku ke atas Isa samalah seperti penciptaan Adam.
Tidak pula Adam dianggap sebagai Anak Tuhan. Bukankah diciptakan tnpa ibubapa?

Oleh itu, selagi bukan Islam tidak menerima sifat2 Allah, maka tidak layak Allah diserupakan dgn apa yg mereka sembah.

Benar, Allah Tuhan yg selayaknya mereka dan kita semua sembah namun selagi mereka tidak mengakui kebenaran yg nyata ini, selagi itulah tidak pernah layak Allah digunakan oleh mereka.


Sekali lagi, sudah terang lagikan bersuluh..

Allahu Ahad

Tirai 2009 Masihi dilabuhkn dgn satu keputusan kontroversi Mahkamah Tggi yg membenarkn sebuah tabloid keluaran gereja utk menggunakan nama Allah dlm penerbitan berbahasa Melayu sebagai ganti nama Tuhan.

Keputusan ini mencetuskn pertikaian memandangkan perkataan Allah yg digunakan umat Islam dikatakan eksklusif milik umat Islam itu saja.

Sedangkn sesetengah dr cendekiawan Islam melihat ianya tidak salah krn Allah merupakan Tuhan Sekalian Alam. Tuhan kpd semua makhluk.

Namun, apa yg menarik, mengapa perlunya perkataan Tuhan dlm sebuah penerbitan Katholik mahu menggunakan nama Allah? Kenapa tidak boleh menggunakan saja nama 'Tuhan' atau Father sebagaimana yg digunakan dlm penerbitan berbahasa Inggeris sebelum ini?

Mengikut kamus, di dalam bahasa Inggeris, God apabila dialih ke bahasa Melayu, maknanya Tuhan.

Persoalannya kenapa perlunya menerbitkn sesuatu dlm bahasa Melayu dan menggunakan pula Allah bukannya Tuhan sedangkn di Malaysia, Islam ditujukan kepada Melayu dan org Melayu menurut Perlembagaan Persekutuan ditakrifkn mesti beragama Islam.

Ulasan saya mudah,

kenapa isu nama Allah hendak digunakan dlm terbitan Katholik?

Jawapannya adalah soalan kpd pihak mereka sendiri.

Adakah Allah yg dimaksudkn itu sama dgn Allah yg kita semua dambakan yakni tidak beranak dan diperanakkan dan tiada apa yg setara dgnNya?

Bagi Katholik, Tuhan mempunyai anak yakni Jesus Al Masih sedangkn di dalam Al Quran, Allah diperincikan sebagai Ahad yakni Tunggal dan tidak beranak atau diperanakkan.

Adakah Katholik sekadar mahu menggunakan nama Allah utk tjuan tertentu atau mereka sedar bahawa Allah yg kita semua sembah dan layak serta patut disembah adalah Allah yg Tidak beranak dan tidak diperanakkan..

Keputusan Mahkamah Tinggi ini sebenarnya tidak benar dan silap serta dilakukan dgn kabur.

Saya buta undang2 dan perundangan, namun setahu saya hanya undang2 Allah saja yg patut ditegakkan dan layak diberi keutamaan.

Sehinggalah Katholik atau mana2 agama menerima dan mengakui bahawa Allah itu Esa dan hanya Dia yg layak disembah dan Nabi Muhammad itu pesuruh Allah, maka sehingga itulah hak menggunakan nama Allah tu EXCLUSIVE milik umat Islam seluruhnya sahaja.


Apa kata anda?

notakaki

dh 2010 kita masih dijajah

Original sin

Dosa warisan atau original sin merupakan salah satu rukun yg wajib dipercayai penganut Kristian. Mereka percaya manusia menanggung dosa Adam dan Hawa yg dihasut syaitan utk memakan buah larangan di syurga lalu di buang ke dunia.

Redemption of sin through the crucifixion is not Jesus's teaching?

This is the doctrine of atonement accepted by the church three to four centuries after jesus left the earth. it contradicts the bible itself as the following passage show :


Deutronomy 24:16 ; "the fathers shall not be put to death for the children, neither shall the children be pun to death for the fathers: every man shall be put to death for his own sin."

> ayat di atas jelas menunjukkan Bible sendiri menolak teori dosa warisan.

jeremiah 31:30
"but every one shall die for his own iniquity.."


ezekiel 18:20
"the soul that sinneth, it shall die. the son shall not bear the iniquity of the father, neither the father bear the iniquity of the son: righteousness of the righteous shall be upon him, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon him."


so adam and eve were responsible for their own sin, which had also been forgiven by Allah according to the islamic version.


read what jesus himself said in Matthew 7:1 and 2

"judge not, that ye be not judged. for with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to u again."


I corinthians

"now he that planeth and he that watereth are one; and every man shall receive his own reward according to his own labour. "


do u still believe in original sin?


read matthew 19:14

"but jesus said, Suffer little children, and forbid them not, to come unto me: for a such is the kingdom of heaven."


everybody is born without sin and all children belong to the kingdom of heaven. do u know that it was paul who abolished the mosaic law?


read acts 13:39

"and by him all that believe are justified from all things from which ye could not be justified by the law of moses"


let me ask a question. why do u believe in the resurrection if paul himself, who never saw jesus alive, admitted that this was his gospel?


read II timnothy 2:8

"remember that jesus christ of the seed of david was raised from the dead according to my gospel ."


do u think that a baby who is die a moment he/she born, where he/she will go? hell or heaven?

Kenali pandemik M.U.R.T.A.D

Aslmualaikum warahmatullahiwabarakatuh
Selawat dan salam ke atas Nabi SAW, keluarga dan sahabat baginda.

Umum tahu dan arif mengenai kes2 murtad yg menjadi2 dikalangan masyarakat Islam di negara ini. Biarpun satu kes sehari dibandingkan dgn berbelas juta umat Islam di Malaysia, kes murtad harus diperangi ke akar umbi.

Dari sudut perundangan, kita (umat Islam) telah kalah sebelum bertanding. Perlembagaan Persekutuan yg kita junjung ini adalah duri dalam daging dlm pada menegah anak2, saudara malah kita sendiri keluar dari agama Allah ini.

Beberapa tahun lalu, saudari Azlina Jailani memohon digugurkan dari Mykad, status agama Islamnya. Keputusan Mahkamah Persekutuan ketika itu menolak permohonan Azlina atau nama barunya, Lina Joy. Biarpun kalah, mereka sebenarnya telah menang secara moral. Umat Islam yg murtad cuma tidak boleh menukar status agama pada Mykad namun boleh kekal murtad tnpa sebarang tindakan oleh pihak berwajib.

Siapa agaknya harus dipersalahkn?

Mengenali agama Kristian.

Agama Kristian pada asasnya merupakan agama yg tidak pernah di dengari atau diketahui oleh manusia yg dipuja2 penganutnya iaitu Jesus Son of Mary (Isa Ibnu Maryam). Dalam kita Al Quran, Nabi Isa a.s disebut Allah sebagai Isa Ibnu Maryam manakala penganut Kristian menggelarnya Jesus Christ atau Jesus Son of God.

Sejarah membuktikan bahawa tiada gereja pada zaman Isa Al Masih. Gereja mula dibina beberapa lama selepas "kematian" Jesus.

Sepanjang hayatnya, Jesus mengajar 12 pengikutnya di synagog dan bukannya gereja. Kitab Bible juga bukan kitab Injil yg dipesongkn. Ini krn kitab Injil adalah berbeza dgn kitab Bible. Kitab Injil diturunkn Allah kpd Nabi Isa sedangkn Bible merupakan himpunan surat2 dan juga buku2 Kitab Perjanjian Lama dan Kitab Perjanjian baru.

Umat Islam sendiri mendakwa Bible adalah Injil yg telah dipesongkan walaupun hakikatnya Injil dan Bible adalah dua kitab yg berbeza.

Ajaran Kristian adalah ajaran yg diasaskn Paul Tarsus. Paul tidak pernah bertemu dgn Jesus sepanjang hayatnya dan Jesus tidak pernah mengajarkn ttg Kristian sepanjang hayatnya.

Diceritakan oleh seorg sahabat, "Apabila turunnya Nabi Isa a.s ke bumi oleh Allah nanti, Baginda tidak tahu menahu namanya adalah Jesus Christ. Jika dipanggil pengikut Kristian, necaya baginda tidak akan menyahut krn namanya bukan Jesus Christ"

Ajaran Kristian sepertimana ajaran2 lain termasuk Islam mempunyai rukun tersendiri.
Jika Islam mempunyai 6 Rukun Iman yg wajib dipegang teguh, Kristian pula percaya kpd beberapa rukun mereka.

1. Dosa warisan (Original sin)

Kristian mendakwa seluruh manusia adalah berdosa dan mewarisi dosa2 Adam dan Hawa. itulah sebbnya setiap bayi yg lahir wajib melalui proses pembaptisan bg mencuci dosa2 silam jika tidak ianya akan masuk ke neraka.

Secara logiknya, adakah bayi yg mati selepas dilahirkn itu turut berdosa? Ke mana agaknya dia akan ditempatkn? Syurga atau neraka? - menurut kepercayaan Kristian

2. Triniti (3 dalam 1, 1 dalam 3)

Kristian percaya Tuhan ada 3. iaitu Tuhan Bapa, Tuhan Anak (Jesus) dan Ruhul Qudus (Holy Spirit/Ghost)
Adalah haram mengatakan 3 Tuhan sebaliknya 1 Tuhan.

Ironinya, di dalam Bible tidak wujud perkataan Trinity
sebaliknya Trinity ada disebut didalam Quran oleh Allah. Allah melarang manusia menyembah Tuhan yg ada 3 iaitu Trinity kerana Trinity adalah rekaan Paul dan Jesus tidak pernah mengajarnya.

Logiknya, 1+1+1=3

3. Penyaliban Jesus Christ

Kristian juga percaya Jesus telah disalib. Disalib krn bagi menebus dosa2 manusia. Dengan itu, beliau menanggung seluruh dosa2 manusia krn beliau cintakan manusia.

Ironinya, bagaimana "Tuhan" boleh mati? sedangkn jika "Tuhan" mati, maka hilanglah sifat Tuhan yg tidak mati, tidak makan dan tidak minum.

Menurut sejarah Islam, lelaki yg disalib adalah Yahudza dimana Allah menukar dirinya sepertimana wajah Jesus pada malam tentera Romawi mahu membunuh Jesus.
Jesus dituduh mahu merampas takhta Maharaja Rom ketika itu hasil fitnah jahat kaum Yahudi.

Seorang sahabat saya beragama Kristian kini di U.S.
Sesiapa yg mempercayai penyaliban Jesus ini maka dia layak utk mendapat Salvation pada Hari Akhir.

4. Jesus Anak Tuhan
Kristian percaya, Jesus dilahirkan oleh ibu yg masih dara yakni Maryam atau Mary.
Mereka mendakwa Jesus adalah anak Tuhan yg dilahirkn oleh Maryam. hal ini disebut dalam Kitab Bible atau lebih tepat ayat John 3:16

Pernahkah saudara sekalian menonton gusti WWF? Stone Cold Steve Austin ada memakai bagu tertera 3:16 yg membawa maksud

JOHN 3:16

"For God so loved the world that he gave his only Son, so that
everyone who believes in him will not perish but have eternal life.

Islam percaya dan disebutkn dalam Al Quran

"Lo! the likeness of jesus with Allah is as the likeness of Adam. He created him from dust, then He said unto him: Be! and he is. (QURAN 3:59)

> Kun Fayakun

Kelahiran Jesus secara mukjizat ini merupakan bukti kekuasaan Allah SWT. Sebagaimana Nabi Adam dilahirkn tnpa bapa, begitulah halnya dgn Jesus. Baginda dilahirkn tnpa bapa atas kekuasaan Allah SWT. Tiada yg mustahil bagi Allah.


Ini adalah sebahagian dpd asas2 agama Kristian yg patut kita semua fahami supaya tiada lagi salah faham dan pkr2 yg mengacau akidah kita dan anak2 kita.

For English version of this article, please click here



notakaki:

Sekiranya ada permintaan utk disiarkn sepenuhnya dalam English mohon diberitahu. Untuk rujukan lebih kefahaman, saya ada menulis dalam English dan boleh dirujuk ke Labels (Tulisan lain) utk lebih maklumat.

Selepas penerangan ringkas ini, saya percaya adalah tidak logik bagi umat Islam seperti kita yg Allah kurniakn akal ini masih mahu memilih selain Allah berdasarkn kelemahan2 yg ada pada agama selain Islam. Nyata Kristian adalah ajaran ciptaan manusia dan bukannya ajaran dari Tuhan yakni Allah SWT.

Lailahaillallah Muhammadurasullullah

Segala yg baik datang dari Allah, yg kurang adalah kelemahan saya.

Wallahualam.

Crucifixion

Source : Part of email between Author and Christian missionary in United States


Peace be upon us all.


Redemption of sin through the crucifixion is not Jesus's teaching?



this is the doctrine of atonement accepted by the church three to four centuries after jesus left the earth. it contradicts the bible itself as the following passage show :



Deutronomy 24:16 ; "the fathers shall not be put to death for the children, neither shall the children be pun to death for the fathers: every man shall be put to death for his own sin."



jeremiah 31:30



"but every one shall die for his own iniquity.."



ezekiel 18:20

"the soul that sinneth, it shall die. the son shall not bear the iniquity of the father, neither the father bear the iniquity of the son: righteousness of the righteous shall be upon him, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon him."



so adam and eve were responsible for their own sin, which had also been forgiven by Allah according to the islamic version.



read what jesus himself said in Matthew 7:1 and 2



"judge not, that ye be not judged. for with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to u again."



I corinthians



"now he that planeth and he that watereth are one; and every man shall receive his own reward according to his own labour. "



do u still believe in original sin?



read matthew 19:14

"but jesus said, Suffer little children, and forbid them not, to come unto me: for a such is the kingdom of heaven."



everybody is born without sin and all children belong to the kingdom of heaven. do u know that it was paul who abolished the mosaic law?



read acts 13:39



"and by him all that believe are justified from all things from which ye could not be justified by the law of moses"



let me ask a question. why do u believe in the resurrection if paul himself, who never saw jesus alive, admitted that this was his gospel?



read II timnothy 2:8

"remember that jesus christ of the seed of david was raised from the dead according to my gospel ."

How Jesus create us?

Q: Is Jesus god?


A:  In the gospel according to John (1:1) ; "in the beginning was the word, and the word was with god, and the word was god"


- we had agreed that a holy scropture should not contain contradictions. if there are two conflicting verses, then only one can be true; both can never be true or both wrong.

jesus is the god sccording to john 1:1

then how many gods are there? two at least. this then is in contradiction with many passages in the bible (deutronomy 4:39) "...that the god is in heaven above, and upon earth beneath: there is none else"

Deutronomy 6:4

"hear O israel" the Lord our God is one Lord"

Isaiah 43: 10-11. "...that ye may know and believe me and understand that i am he: before me there was no god formed neither shall there be after me. i, even a, am the Lord...i am the first, and i am the last : beside me there is no God "

isaiah 45:18" for thus saith the Lord that created the heavens: God himself that formed the earth and made it: he hath established it, he created it not in vain, he formed it to be inhabited: i am the Lord; there is none else."

from isaiah 34:18 alone we can conclude that God alone was the Creator and no one else, not even jesus, participated in the creation.

see further


Deutronomy 4:35

Exodus 8:10

II samuel 7:22

I kings 8:23

I chronicles 17:20

psalms 86:8, 89:6 and 113.5

hosea 13:4

zechariah 14:9

in new testament

mark 12:29

I corinthians 8:4

I timothy 2:5

now u can either say that john 1:1 right and all these other verses are wrong, or the reverse.

The Miracles of Jesus?

Aslmualaikum wbt

Peace be upon Prophet Muhammad SAW


According to Quran, Jesus, on whom be peace, performed the following miracles by Allah's leave:

1. spoke while he was only baby

2. healed those born blind

3. healed the lepers

4. revived the dead

5. breathed life into a bird made of clay.

in the Quran Allah quotes jesus pbuh as saying:

"Lo! I come unto u with sign form your Lord. lo! I fashion for u out of clay the likeness of a bird, and I breathed into it and it is a bird by Allah's leave. I heal him who was born blind, and the leper, and I raise the dead, by Allah's leave. and I announce to u what u eat and what u store in your houses. Lo! herein verily is a portent for u if u are to be believers. and (I come) confirming that which was before me of the Torah, and to make lawful some of that which was forbidden unto u. I come unto u with a sign from your Lord, so keep your duty to Allah and obey me."


Lo! Allah is my Lord and your Lord, so worship Him. That is a straight path.


(QURAN 3:49-51)

Virgin birth of Jesus - We Explain

Aslmualaikum wbt

Peace be upon Prophet Muhammad SAW


Dear friends,


The virgin birth of jesus

- Muslims believe in the virgin birth of jesus (isa ibnu maryam - jesus son of mary). when the angel (Angel Gabriel) announced to Mary (peace be upon her) about Allah's promise that she will have a son, she was surprised, since she was a virgin. " how can this be?" she thought. she was reminded that it is easy for Allah to create whatever He wills. she said:

"My Lord! How can i have a child when no mortal hath touched me? He said: So (it will be). Allah createth what He will. if He decreeth a thing. He saith unto it only: Be! and it is"

Quran 3:47

it is not difficult for Allah to do anything he wants. He can create a child with both human parents or only one. no miracle is beyond His power. after all, He had created adam (pbuh) from neither a man nor a woman. He created the rest of us from both man and woman. what is so hard if Allah decides to create a human being from a woman only? he only commans "BE!" and it occurs.

some people think that since jesus pbuh had no human father then God must be his father. the Quran rejects this view. the position of jesus with Allah is comparable to the position of Adam with Allah. just because Adam had no human parent does not mean we should call him the Son of God.

"Lo! the likeness of jesus with Allah is as the likeness of Adam. He created him from dust, then He said unto him: Be! and he is. (QURAN 3:59)

Mereka Percaya - Kita Jawab

Aslmualaikum wbt

Selawat dan salam ke atas Junjungan Besar SAW

Sedikit peringatan :


Sekiranya berminat utk berhujah ilmiah, sila klik web ini. KLIK SINI Dan peringatan utk semua, sila menjaga nama baik Islam. Don't hit and run. Jangan biarkan Islam tercemar hanya dgn kejahilan kita. Sekiranya belum mahir utk berhujah, cukuplah sekadar memerhati.Niat kita mahu berhujah memberi perkhabaran ttg Islam dan bukannya menjatuhkan agama mereka. Biarpun pahit, kebenaran itu harus kita dedahkan. Kerana itu hak mereka utk mengetahuinya


rujuk Surah Muhammad Ayat 7


(kita tolong agama Allah, dan Allah akan tolong kita)


Wallahualam.

Ini merupakan sebahagian pertukaran msg antara penulis dgn seorg mubaligh Kristian dari Filipina yg menetap di Amerika Syarikat kira2 setahun yg lalu.

Peace be upon u BRENT,


Brother, Christians believes in


i) trinity

ii) divinity of jesus christ

II) divine sonship of jesus christ

iv) atonement and original sin.



let me goes one by one-


Trinity


do u believe in trinity?

of course ur answer will be - YES


According to First espistle of John (5:7-8) : "for there are three that bear record in heaven, the father, the word, and the holy ghost: and these three are one. and there are three that bear witness in earth, the spirit,and the water, and the blood, and these three are agree in one."


- that is in King James Version, authorized in 1611, and formed the strongest evidence for the doctrine of the trinity. but now, this part," the father,the word, and the holy ghost: and these are one," has been expunged in the Riversed Standard Version of 1952 and 1971 and in many other bible, as it was a gloss that had encroached on the Greek text.


I john (5:7-8) in the new american standard bible reads as follows,


"and it is the spirit who bears witness, because the spirit is truth. for there are three that bear witness, the spirit and the water and the blood, and the three are in agreement."


Also in the new world translation of the holy scriptures used by Jehovah's Witnesses, u will find: " for there are three witness beares, the spirit, the water and the blood, and the theree are in agreement. " i can understand if why u don't know that this important part has been removed, but i wonder why many ministers and preachers are not aware of this.


the trinity is not biblical. the word trinity is not even in the bible or bible dictionaries, was never taught by jesus and was never mentioned by him. there is no basis or proof in the bible whatsoever for the acceptance of the trinity.


now, What is the Holy Spirit?


Christians said: "the holy spirit is the Holy Ghost, is also God. we are taught, the Father is God, the son is God, the holy Ghost is God. we are not allowed to say Three Gods but One God."

Matthew 1:18


"Now the birth of Jesus Christ was on this wise: when as his mother Mary was espoused to Joseph, before they came together, she was found with child of the Holy Ghost"

compare now with Luke 1:26-27


"and in sixth month the angel gabriel was sent from God unto a city of galilee, named nazareth, to a virgin espoused to a man whose name was joseph, of the house of david; and the virgin's name was Mary"

so in the miraculous birth of jesus, Matthew mentioned the Holy Ghost and Luke mentioned the angel gabriel.


whas is the holy ghost then?


Answer : the holy ghost is then the Angel Gabriel.


then God is God, the holy ghost or the holy spirit is the angel gabriel, and jesus...?


Jesus is a prophet, son of Mary. (Isa ibni Maryam)


It is not a problem for us not to believe that Jesus (Isa ibnu Maryam) is a God. He is Allah's messenger. he is same with our Prophet Muhammad SAW and other prophets (peace be upon them).


Sumber Rujukan


Al Quran


Combat Kit Ahmad Deedat


Bible King James IV Version


Saudara Imran Azwan


Saudara Lim Jooi Soon


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